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Joseph 9
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Posted - 2008.02.01 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/02/2008 18:14:43 PROTIP: At this point, the election is almost already decided in favor of Obama, since there are no viable Republican candidates. If what you state happened, there would be riots in the streets. Obama, unlike some of his opponents, would not be enough of a fascist to order the United States put under military rule.
Your statement would only be believable if the Republicans had a ghost of a chance this election.
I find you oracular powers both astounding and somewhat unbelievable. How much money have you put your prophesised outcome o' Oracle? And if not why not?
Not that I find an Obama win shocking, I just don't think Clinton is out of the race yet.
Bah, I've just notice the almost you have in there... oh well.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jessamine
/sigh
Can't complain about the emos getting put in place, never understood what a chav is though...
Chavs were originally inhabitants of Chatham in the Southeast if England, but the breed has spread. Essentially they are of working class origin, are pig ignorant, anti-work, pro-figting in the steet and drinking dirt cheap alcohol ner-do-wells. Status amoungst chavs is about the only important thing to them and they have adopted certain items of clothing as thier own, specifically the hoody, up market trainers, and much to the companies horror, Burberry. I used to like Burberry, I have mates who own Burberry products. None of us will wear them anymore.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:59:00 -
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I've spent some time in the Us and rednecks and chavs don't 'feel' the same to me tbh. I think Rednecks are a far more variable breed, whilst once you've met one chav you've met them all.. and want to murder them.
Anyway some pictures for you
http://www.xymalf.co.uk/images/chavs/chav1.jpg http://www.xymalf.co.uk/images/chavs/chav4.gif
The delightful chappie in the second picture is why no one I know will wear Burberry anymore.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Joseph 9 on 01/02/2008 20:13:15 Ah yes wiggers. I used to work with a lass who was, shall we say, that way inclined despite being whiter than pure driven snow. What made her particularly funny/pathetic was she went around accusing other people of her own sins, i.e. she's a wigger, he's a chav..
I was thankful my desk faced the opposite way to her so she couldn't see me crying with laughter at her pronouncements.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:35:00 -
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God knows what a liberal SAW is but I would add to what the last poster said. By US standards virtually the whole of Europe is left wing-liberal, and the whole of Europe with a few exceptions have professional fighting forces and have no intention of implementing conscription ever again.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 21:53:00 -
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UK politics are rather strange at the moment, the 3 parties have historically been (simplifying grotesequely) Conservative (right wing, low tax, free market believers), Labour (left wing, tax and spend, pro state-management of critical industry) and Liberals (generally in the middle).
As of now the Liberal's are the left most party, conservatives have moved slightly left in general I feel and Labour have gone screaming off to the right and now sit slightly to the right of the coservatives. It's very odd.
And thats without mentioning devolution.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Suffice to say, an American Conservative generally believes in the principles of Federalism. IE: a weaker central government with more power decentralized to the individual states, low taxation, low regulation, high focus on individual liberties, freedoms, and property rights, and a strong, volunteer military. American Conservatives believe that the American Constitution exists to LIMIT the powers of the central government, and to expand the rights of citizens. I could go on, but you get the general idea.
As you can see, that concept, when compared against history, is a radical, forward-looking one that places power and trust in individuals, rather than in a slow, cumbersome central government bureaucracy. In terms of Human history, THAT is blazing a path.
erm. I'd describe the three points I've bolded as fairly central to the brand of liberal government as practiced in Scandinavia.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.01 22:26:00 -
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Given what you just said Bish the US definition of liberalism is utterly utterly unrelated to European liberalism. European liberalism is entriely to do with the personal freedoms of the populace. And whilst it is often associated with left wing parties and policies this is by no means a requirement of liberalism.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.02 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution Have to agree here. "Teaching the test" so to speak always seemed to take up a reasonable chunk of exam year. The more tests there are the worse this gets :/
This comes out of those lovely league tables governments are so fond of producing. OH NOES my school is below average, my poor little babies will be permanently scarred and unable to ever get a decent job and will end up as a ***** dealing hooker murdering peado pimp...
Anyway it is a fairly unavoidable that 50% of schools will always be below average, unless your maths is really really bad. These league tables would be more useful if they added stuff like variance to them. But then how many parents have the eduction to understand variance/deviation.
And as a final point I went to a below average state run comprehensive school here in the UK, I have multiple degrees, work as a research scientist and earn well above the national average. So going to a below average school really ruined my life...
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